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I just found this forum and thought I'd ask you JD experts for help! I'm in the market for a Utility Vehicle (1st one) and had my mind set on a Kawasaki Mule 4010 Trans 4x4 Diesel after using a loaner for 6 weeks. Loved the versatility and capability for my use on a citrus ranch.

While waiting for Mule pricing, I happened to stop by my local JD dealer for something else and the salesman asked how my search was coming along. I let him know I loved the Mule and was waiting to hear back from my contact there. He told me he wanted to have the 825i dropped off at my ranch, "just to try it out". I resisted at first but the more he talked about it, the more I thought I need to be an educated consumer, especially given how expensive these things are!

Well, I've now been using the Gator for 6 days and have put 11 hours on it (it had 6 upon delivery). I really like how quickly it gets up to speed, how smooth the ride is and how comfy it is. I haven't hauled anything because I don't want to get it all scratched up, but I'm pretty sure that won't be a problem. I was hauling old orange tree stumps, limbs, dirt, rocks, power equipment, etc in the Mule and is how I'd use the Gator.

My question is what accessories do you think are necessary and why? Is maintenance easy (LOF)? Do JD dealers generally give any sort of discount? And is the extended warranty a good idea? Thanks for any advice and suggestions... this is a cool forum :).
 

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I just found this forum and thought I'd ask you JD experts for help! I'm in the market for a Utility Vehicle (1st one) and had my mind set on a Kawasaki Mule 4010 Trans 4x4 Diesel after using a loaner for 6 weeks. Loved the versatility and capability for my use on a citrus ranch.

While waiting for Mule pricing, I happened to stop by my local JD dealer for something else and the salesman asked how my search was coming along. I let him know I loved the Mule and was waiting to hear back from my contact there. He told me he wanted to have the 825i dropped off at my ranch, "just to try it out". I resisted at first but the more he talked about it, the more I thought I need to be an educated consumer, especially given how expensive these things are!

Well, I've now been using the Gator for 6 days and have put 11 hours on it (it had 6 upon delivery). I really like how quickly it gets up to speed, how smooth the ride is and how comfy it is. I haven't hauled anything because I don't want to get it all scratched up, but I'm pretty sure that won't be a problem. I was hauling old orange tree stumps, limbs, dirt, rocks, power equipment, etc in the Mule and is how I'd use the Gator.

My question is what accessories do you think are necessary and why? Is maintenance easy (LOF)? Do JD dealers generally give any sort of discount? And is the extended warranty a good idea? Thanks for any advice and suggestions... this is a cool forum :).
I'm still a relatively new owner, so I can't give you a whole lot. I can't speak for all JD dealers, but my dealer does discount for me. My Gator is a low hour demo unit, but pricing before the "demo discount" was WAY under what I expected.

I also get great pricing on service (at least for my tractor, but I expect the same for my Gator when it's ready). They offer the "standard" JD service specials but also have dealership specials. (They were merged into a larger dealership chain last year, but they still seem to have a lot of autonomy.)

FYI, the dealership is actually about the 3rd or 4th closest JD to my house, but my salesman lives down the road from me and will haul equipment back and forth for service as needed. Very convenient. I have a long relationship with the salesman and the dealership, and that probably helps in pricing.

As for options, I highly recommend the powered dump bed. Most of the rest depends on how you will use it. Because mine was a demo, I got what my dealership thinks would sell best. Stepping through from the configurator:

I have the standard wheels/Ankla tires. (I hear that the alloy/Big Horns ride nicer; give more ground clearance; take away a little acceleration.) I'm happy with them. They will dig up the soft turf, but with my terrain, snow and mud, I can live with that. If I was ordering from scratch, I think I would have gone with the Big Horns.

Mine has a bench seat. I probably would have ordered the sport seats as I seldom have a 3rd person (who is without a seat belt and has to put feet off to side or straddle shift levers), but for work, the bench seat is very good.

I have the standard OPS with the rear screen. I'm not planning on "cabbing" mine (even in CO), so having a little protection from stuff in the bed gives me peace of mind.

Mine came with protection all around (brush guard, fender and bed guard, rear bumper, mats for floor and bed - and the power dump as part of the package), and that's definitely good for me.

Standard muffler. This is a work machine. I would go for quieter rather than peppier.

No front for me, but I can see how it would be handy. Think about your needs (you can always get one later), and look at other options. I've seen pics of some nice custom made racks that are deeper to make sure everything arrives at your destination.

I also got a poly roof (note that you want to consider your future enclosure plans as this won't work with all - though you can sell it later), and a poly windshield. For my foreseeable plans, the poly roof is perfect. The only alternative that might be better would be one of the aftermarket metal roofs, but I like keeping my CG low. The jury is out on poly windshield. Non-scratch would probably be nice, and wiper would be handy too. I am glad I have a full windshield. Keeping wind and debris out of my face is really nice - even on hot days, and the flip up and open sides gives all the ventilation I need. I have had what seems to be a common issue with the flip up not staying put on the lower clips - and adjustments to clips have not helped. There are remedies on the web, but I haven't gotten around to trying them yet.

As for other accessories, you can probably find most at a discount outside JD. (Though if you're using JD financing, you can roll them up and feel less pain in the wallet.) Things I am planning or thinking about are additional lights and a winch. For now, I haven't decided which winch option is best, so I'll just keep my tractor handy to pull myself out of "stucks". The only other JD option I'm considering is turn signals, because I do run down the road between neighbor's houses (and it's fun thinking the "slow moving vehicle" sign is not appropriate with the top speed higher than the speed limits ;)).

You'll see a wide variety of options from members of the group and I think all are happy with their decisions. A lot has to do with how you plan to and how you eventually use the machine. Feel free to ask questions specific to your use and desired options, and you're sure to get at least several differing suggestions. :D

I think you'd be VERY happy with a Gator. I needed better suspension than the Mule or Kubota have for my property. I was considering the 850D for a while (used a neighbor's) and then the 855D (with the improved suspension), but I really love the pep of the 825i! (I know of at least one rancher who got an 825i loaner when his 855D was in for service - and he ordered a trade-in before his service was done!)

Good luck!

- Steve in windy CO
 

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Thanks Steve!

Thank you for sharing your thoughts... appreciate it! The smoother ride & quicker acceleration were the first differences I noticed when I drove the 825i after having gotten used to the Trans 4x4. Am getting close to pulling the trigger on the JD Gator :).
 

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You won't be sorry if you buy a 825i....I've had mine since August of 2011 and it's the coolest toy I have ever bought in my 53 years...I have added a bunch of stuff to it and it's as much fun doing the mods to it as it is riding the thing...

The only thing that I want bad for it is a clutch spring kit to make it get up and go quicker without having to have so many RPM's going on...it would quiet it down some, get better fuel mileage, and run cooler too....One of the more well known Performance Clutch Companies is supposed to have a clutch kit coming out soon...I can't wait for it!!!...I'd love to have a little more top end speed too...a solid 50 mph would be nice....

Good luck on your purchase....

Larry in MD :D
 

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Thanks guys. More questions... I just looked at the build date sticker on the demo 825i I'm trying out and it says 7/2011. Will this one have everything a 2012 build date does or will something need to be retrofitted? (Sorry but I'm a complete novice on these things!) I've put 22 hours on it and it has developed some squeaks and whining noises which I'm not sure are "normal" and wonder if there is an "extended warranty" (like I'm used to in cars) and was told there is also a "service plan". Can anyone shed some light on these options? Thanks again for your help guys. I'm hoping to make my decision and get this wrapped up. BTW, can anyone tell me the difference in MSRP between 2011 & 2012? THX!
 

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Had my gator since nov. of 2010 can't live without it!!! J.D. Offers a extended warrenty for the 825i which is very cheap, one time at Deere dealer will pay for the extended warr. IMHO!!!!:cool:
 

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Got mine for my Wife :D(Oh yeah!). Installed the Boss Pro-V plow and 4500 lb winch. Had an easy winter so have not had much of a chance to use it yet. I'll try to add a Picture with this post. Only other items I will need are the rest of the poly cab and HD front springs. They are a great toy too!
 

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Your rig ROCKS!!!...there's something about how baddass looking those Gators are with the Boss V-Plow attached to them...

I have a Poly Cab and love it...you won't be sorry with getting the rest of it for yours....

Larry in MD :D
 

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Sunkist, The only change they have made on the 2012 (as up to now) is the front axle driveshaft in which the front bearing is rubber isolated for noise and vibration,The 2011 you are demoing can have this installed under warranty.The extended warranty is for 3 yrs Bumper to Bumper at a cost of around $250.00, well worth it.Also includes pickup and delivery up to 25 miles from dealer.:)
 

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Hey Sunkist,

There is no "model year" difference for 2011 and 2012. There have been a number of changes made during the manufacturing run, however.

Most notable is the front drive shaft bearing mentioned already. I would not be too concerned about this as replacement with the new version should be covered by warranty (though, based on discussions I've seen, it seems to be harder to convince some dealers to upgrade). (I don't know the date/SN of the change, but yours is early enough that it probably had the original version when manufactured. Yours may already be upgraded, but you might negotiate that fix into the sales deal.)

A second change that has not received much attention is that early Gators vent their gas tanks through the floor - which means potential crud being pulled into the tank. Later machines vent back into the throttle body. (For more info - including a solution, see the thread in the other Gator forum I participate in, Relocating Gas Tank Vent (video), or directly to the source, GatorOffRoad.com.) I have no idea when this change was implemented, but as a data point, my Sept. 23, 2011 mfg date vents to the throttle body.

There are probably other minor changes between the '11 and '12, but I am not aware of them.

I would think you can get the dealer to address the squeaks and rattles as part of your purchase deal. (Try to have him throw in a free oil change too. That should get you past your break in period. ;)) Glad to hear the Gator seems to be working out for you!

As for MSRP, I can't state with certainty, but it appears the machine went up by $200 and factory "build" accessories went up anywhere from 0 to about 10%.

- Steve in CO
 

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HD Springs

Hi Tony. Found this post also.

Yes, I also bought mine for my wife:))). Actually I really did. It was her Christmas present. Adds more credibility to the "bought for my wife" that way ;-)

Can I ask why you are purchasing the HD springs? Did you end up purchasing them? If so, was it for the plow -- and why? I was told and hoping I didn't need them and can get by with what came with the machine. I was told all I needed to do was crank springs to highest tension.

Thx,

-Randy
 

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Hi Tony. Found this post also.

Yes, I also bought mine for my wife:))). Actually I really did. It was her Christmas present. Adds more credibility to the "bought for my wife" that way ;-)

Can I ask why you are purchasing the HD springs? Did you end up purchasing them? If so, was it for the plow -- and why? I was told and hoping I didn't need them and can get by with what came with the machine. I was told all I needed to do was crank springs to highest tension.

Thx,

-Randy
 

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Watch prices on upgrades.

I own a 2011 825i and what I noticed when shopping around is the price of their upgrades are the same as purchasing the items outright. As an example if you upgrade to the Magnesium rims and taller tires they charge you $800 for the upgrade, but if you order the rims and tires after you buy the machine they cost $800 so you end up with the stock rims and tires to sell or use in the winter so your good rims don't get salt pits in them. Other upgrades are similar so just watch the pricing for upgrades the dealer tries to include.

Dave
 
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