Well I got to see how the gator rated this weekend. 3 days with a buddy and his razor. I am pleased with the out come. The setting was all woods. lots of mud tight turns and ruts. The gator had no problem closing the gap and when leading I had no problem holding my position out front. I defiantly made up ground on the up hills. In the tight trails it seemed like i really had to drive it to keep up. I had the suspension set soft. springs about an inch from top and dampening at click 4. The bumpier the trail got the gators fox suspension really helped me out. The heavy sticky mud was no problem for me either and when we got to water the razor seemed to get its operator a lot more wet. All in all for an all around machine the gator seems to surprise everyone. And when we ran out of fire wood there was no question what machine to take because the razors "deck" isn't good for much. LOL my buddy wants a 900 razor now because he can't beat me flat out. Good weekend happy with the gator. It may not be for everyone but its the only one for me....