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Hi guys. It’s been a while since I have been here. We had some snow tonite so I threw the plow on. I have a powertach plow I bought from my dealer when I bought the Gator. Maybe 4yrs old now. I am having a problem with the plow. It goes up and angles while up. It goes down slow or sometimes won’t even go down. It won’t angle while the blade is down pushing snow. It started giving me problems last year after I sheared the pins off that hold the plow on and the plow fell off ripping a hydro line. I had a new line made and thought I filled the fluid appropriately.

Fast forward to this year. First time out tonite and the plow gets stuck up. Sometimes it goes down after holding the button for a while. It angles while up, but under pressure with snow it struggles to angle or simply won’t.

Any ideas? Do I need more fluid? The fill hole/check hole is in the worst spot. The dipstick is awful as well. is it easier to fill with a syringe vs funnel? Just looking for a little direction Before I lose the rest of my hair. Stay safe!
 

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Sounds like you need to add fluid even if it takes a funnel or syringe.

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Thanks Brad. I had a feeling it’s likely the fluid. I ordered a syringe with a long tube. The fill hole is horrible. The cap is the size of a pencil eraser but once off the actual tube going into the reservoir is much smaller. not to mention my fill hole is directly under the power feed for the pump. Almost impossible to see into and pretty hard to remove the cap to begin with. Almost as bad as the oil filter location on my diesel hpx.

thank you for the link to the pdf. I have called powertach before and they were super helpful. I will try filling again and report back.
 

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I have the same plow. Yes it might be not be enough fluid. It is a pain in the neck to get to. I filled mine and still had an issue. I found out my issue which I think I fixed was the electrical connections. I replaced them and it has seemed to fixed the issue. When it gets stuck have someone push the lever and wiggle the connectors at the same time.The push pins get bent in there.
Good luck and report back.
 

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Hi everyone. I thought I would check in and let you know what I have done. I got one of the kids medicine syringes and filled it with that. The fill is in such a horrible spot you can’t even get a funnel to work. I think I put 2 syringe loads into it. I then turned it on, and moved the plow side to side a bunch of times (someone mentioned this would work the air out). After this I filled it up again, this time maybe a full syringe. i then turned it on again and ran it thru it’s paces and everything seems good.

The pump fill cap has a dipstick on it. I remember the powertach rep telling me not to lose it because it was $40. The dipstick is completely useless. I found filling the pump until it over flows seems to be what’s needed (at least with mine).

Ironically this is my second Gator/plow package. The first one caught fire and almost burned my house down. I had it in the garage since I had just gotten it. insurance company determined dealer didn’t fuse the power lead and the way it was ran put the wire on top of a piece of metal on top of the battery. While sitting on this metal it began to arc and finally ignited. Thank god it’s a diesel or my house would have been gone. I came home to smoke billowing out of the house and garage. If there is any interest I can do a full write up and post some pics. Insurance has run its course and the dust has settled so I can talk about it now. Point being me and powertach have a long history.

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Hi everyone. I thought I would check in and let you know what I have done. I got one of the kids medicine syringes and filled it with that. The fill is in such a horrible spot you can’t even get a funnel to work. I think I put 2 syringe loads into it. I then turned it on, and moved the plow side to side a bunch of times (someone mentioned this would work the air out). After this I filled it up again, this time maybe a full syringe. i then turned it on again and ran it thru it’s paces and everything seems good.

The pump fill cap has a dipstick on it. I remember the powertach rep telling me not to lose it because it was $40. The dipstick is completely useless. I found filling the pump until it over flows seems to be what’s needed (at least with mine).

Ironically this is my second Gator/plow package. The first one caught fire and almost burned my house down. I had it in the garage since I had just gotten it. insurance company determined dealer didn’t fuse the power lead and the way it was ran put the wire on top of a piece of metal on top of the battery. While sitting on this metal it began to arc and finally ignited. Thank god it’s a diesel or my house would have been gone. I came home to smoke billowing out of the house and garage. If there is any interest I can do a full write up and post some pics. Insurance has run its course and the dust has settled so I can talk about it now. Point being me and powertach have a long history.

thanks everyone
Please post your write up in a new thread, when you have the time. The information may help someone down the road.

Thank you for the follow up on servicing the Plow !
 

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Hi everyone. I thought I would check in and let you know what I have done. I got one of the kids medicine syringes and filled it with that. The fill is in such a horrible spot you can’t even get a funnel to work. I think I put 2 syringe loads into it. I then turned it on, and moved the plow side to side a bunch of times (someone mentioned this would work the air out). After this I filled it up again, this time maybe a full syringe. i then turned it on again and ran it thru it’s paces and everything seems good.

The pump fill cap has a dipstick on it. I remember the powertach rep telling me not to lose it because it was $40. The dipstick is completely useless. I found filling the pump until it over flows seems to be what’s needed (at least with mine).

Ironically this is my second Gator/plow package. The first one caught fire and almost burned my house down. I had it in the garage since I had just gotten it. insurance company determined dealer didn’t fuse the power lead and the way it was ran put the wire on top of a piece of metal on top of the battery. While sitting on this metal it began to arc and finally ignited. Thank god it’s a diesel or my house would have been gone. I came home to smoke billowing out of the house and garage. If there is any interest I can do a full write up and post some pics. Insurance has run its course and the dust has settled so I can talk about it now. Point being me and powertach have a long history.

thanks everyone
I have the same plow on my gator, is there any way you could send pictures or a video of where and how you filled the hydraulic fluids? I can tell its low on fluid and I have no clue how to fill it even after hours of looking on line and dozens of times reading the manual. It's been driving me crazy. I would very much appreciate it. Thank you
 

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I have much the same problems (operates some of the time), erratic and noisy ... then not at all (all of this of late after many years of fine operation). Then not at all, but fortunately, the blade was off the ground so I could still move the machine. Worked on it many hours checking electrical connections and even added a small amount of fluid (which I still believe to not have been the problem.) When I pulled the relief valve to check it the blade dropped, then at one moment during further checks (unplugging and replugging the main electrical source,) the blade decided to raise. Then no more movement during countless more attempts in checking electrical circuits that all seemed normal. ... I had called Powertech and they mentioned a new pump if needed would be $840., they suggested I further check electrical circuits before ordering a pump. I did all of that then, and contacted a local JD dealer for Pickup and repair ... they said they would see if they could schedule the pick-up and call me back. While I awaited their call I continued to dig deeper into trouble-shooting, even taking seats and center console out as recommended in the manual.

Getting close to the end of the day I kept at it while waiting for the non-existent return call, I finally put everything back together having decided to drive the machine to the dealers (being as how the blade was at least off the ground, though who knows for how long, was it safe to transport on roads?) Called JD dealer again to tell them that I was ready to leave and was put on hold once again. At the end of a long day, it is finally at the dealer's, about a 20 mile trip @ 33mph. I wanted to but never had the chance to relay to them what I had checked, probably for the better as I would not want them to exclude a check that I had done improperly.

Not only has the above been extremely frustrating for an 82-year-old that cannot perform mechanical work like when younger, but there seemed to be non-existent online help also. Good luck folks!
 

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I have much the same problems (operates some of the time), erratic and noisy ... then not at all (all of this of late after many years of fine operation). Then not at all, but fortunately, the blade was off the ground so I could still move the machine. Worked on it many hours checking electrical connections and even added a small amount of fluid (which I still believe to not have been the problem.) When I pulled the relief valve to check it the blade dropped, then at one moment during further checks (unplugging and replugging the main electrical source,) the blade decided to raise. Then no more movement during countless more attempts in checking electrical circuits that all seemed normal. ... I had called Powertech and they mentioned a new pump if needed would be $840., they suggested I further check electrical circuits before ordering a pump. I did all of that then, and contacted a local JD dealer for Pickup and repair ... they said they would see if they could schedule the pick-up and call me back. While I awaited their call I continued to dig deeper into trouble-shooting, even taking seats and center console out as recommended in the manual.

Getting close to the end of the day I kept at it while waiting for the non-existent return call, I finally put everything back together having decided to drive the machine to the dealers (being as how the blade was at least off the ground, though who knows for how long, was it safe to transport on roads?) Called JD dealer again to tell them that I was ready to leave and was put on hold once again. At the end of a long day, it is finally at the dealer's, about a 20 mile trip @ 33mph. I wanted to but never had the chance to relay to them what I had checked, probably for the better as I would not want them to exclude a check that I had done improperly.

Not only has the above been extremely frustrating for an 82-year-old that cannot perform mechanical work like when younger, but there seemed to be non-existent online help also. Good luck folks!
 

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Hey, Jerry - I have an old 825i with the Powertach plow; the plow only works above freezing! Last week's polar blast with snow was a real bummer!
Do you (or anyone) have a link to the manual for the hydraulic pump?
I'd like to drain and flush and refill the lift cylinder and the two angle cylinders.
Ours froze in the up position - at least we could move the Gator around.
Any help is appreciated, regards, Old John
 

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I have the same plow. Yes it might be not be enough fluid. It is a pain in the neck to get to. I filled mine and still had an issue. I found out my issue which I think I fixed was the electrical connections. I replaced them and it has seemed to fixed the issue. When it gets stuck have someone push the lever and wiggle the connectors at the same time.The push pins get bent in there.
Good luck and report back.
I wish that I (and my dealer) had read this before I took mine in just before Xmas with the very same problems mentioned above. I had called power-tech and they said to not go off and buy their $870 Pump before checkng everything else with a stress on Electrical. I did all of that as best that I was able and along the way, there were a couple of indicators that it was electrical.
To save time I had called JD earlier and asked them to come to pick it up ( initially, I did a lot of checking intending to do it myself because the blade was stuck down and could not be moved until it was raised, but while checking it suddenly raised when I unplugged and replugged the main electrical line (has quick disconnect/connect plug connector) by then I had run out of patience and I was very cold because everything had quit working while outside, as I said, I could not move it inside with the blade down and inoperable. But when the blade had suddenly come up on its own I knew that I could not trust it to stay, so I then moved it all inside and having not heard back from the dealer I decided to check further while awaiting their call. ... they had told me they would check on truck availability and call me right back ... it was while waiting for them that I did most of my checking. I even removed the seats and most of the floor material that hid the wiring. By near end of day and still not hearing back I put it all back together determined to take a chance on the blade dropping during the trip, I called them to confirm closing time, calculating that I could make it, I told them I would drive it to them. It was not an easy trip and it was illegal also, but I got there, checked it in with the service manager. Told him what PT had told me and what I had found, told him it seemed electrical and that I knew the pumps were extremely expensive and I wanted electrical, and whatever checked out before rushing off and buying a new pump. ... it was a long time before I heard back from them, but the mechanic, not the service manager, did eventually call and indicated that he thought he had found the problem and repaired it, that he would further test it out plowing on their lot. That he would call me back soon being pretty sure it was fixed. When he did finally call back, money after the last call having been Friday, he said it was still not working and that it needed a new hydraulic connection manifold , that it had to e ordered and would take a few days, that it would cost over $700 and that with the labour already tallied up so far, the bill would be around $1500 .. that about floored me because that meant most of the difference had been in time spent basically checking wiring -and- mentioning that he had completely disassembled and reassembled the pump in checking it out (It turned out to be OK, worked great, no problems with that unit) .. it seemed that I was going to pay a huge chunk of change for that exercise ...) ... I had originally told them that I thought it was OK because when the blade did move it indicated that the pump at least worked then .. still suspected the electrical. I had also pulled all of the removable pressure/check valves on the manifold, found them clean, and replaced them, I had advised them of that fact also. Anyway, I knew that there would not be much labor for them to replace the manifold when received, so I reluctantly told them to order it because they had me over the barrel, I NEEDED my unit, snow was building up and more expected. That I thought the cost was out of line and that between Power-Tach and JD, someone had better find a way to reduce that cost to me. I mentioned that if not, might have to go online and spread the word via these forums. When that word got to the service manager, who had not been in contact with me since I had dropped it all off, he was irate that I would even think of doing such a thing and that if I was that unhappy they would stop work and return the unit now ... of course, I would be liable for the labor so far, a bit short of $1,000, mainly for the time spent on the pump that was not really called for because all they would have needed in the first place was to pull one hydraulic output line and stick a pressure gauge in and if it had pressure (and it would have) to look elsewhere.
Another week for the most part passed by and they told me the manifold had arrived, been replaced, all seemed well and they would plow their yard some more to e sure it worked and let me know.
Not until the next day did I hear from them, it had not worked and so they had to go over things again. When I did finally hear from them that it was fixed for sure, that they would not charge me for the additional labor it had taken and that in token of the all of the time that I had been without, they would truck it to me so that I would not have to drive it home. (I asked what the problem had been all along, answer: loose wiring connector!) ... a whole lot of time and money for something that should have been simple !) I may have not come here and told about it, having just chocked it off as a learning experience. But a notification automatically came to me with this thread, so why not tell others.
 

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Hey, Jerry - I have an old 825i with the Powertach plow; the plow only works above freezing! Last week's polar blast with snow was a real bummer!
Do you (or anyone) have a link to the manual for the hydraulic pump?
I'd like to drain and flush and refill the lift cylinder and the two angle cylinders.
Ours froze in the up position - at least we could move the Gator around.
Any help is appreciated, regards, Old John
Hi John, I missed getting your question above, I had not heard from anybody until today when this notice came in ... having only read it as far as whoever it was having a plow problem, I jumped right on with "another story" (I had completely forgotten that I had sent in the initial one. At my age the memory does not always work as it used to) ... any potential help for you, likely too late, might be contained in my last, it is pretty complete. But feel free to get back again if needed. Thanks for
your interest. j.
 

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Hey, Jerry - I have an old 825i with the Powertach plow; the plow only works above freezing! Last week's polar blast with snow was a real bummer!
Do you (or anyone) have a link to the manual for the hydraulic pump?
I'd like to drain and flush and refill the lift cylinder and the two angle cylinders.
Ours froze in the up position - at least we could move the Gator around.
Any help is appreciated, regards, Old John
PS .. I found what I needed to read online. As I recall that was not much helpful.
 

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Hey, Jerry - I have an old 825i with the Powertach plow; the plow only works above freezing! Last week's polar blast with snow was a real bummer!
Do you (or anyone) have a link to the manual for the hydraulic pump?
I'd like to drain and flush and refill the lift cylinder and the two angle cylinders.
Ours froze in the up position - at least we could move the Gator around.
Any help is appreciated, regards, Old John
PPS ... I must have logged on here with another of my accounts, used the "google address this last time, I (spirit calls) am Jerry.
 

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Hey, Jerry - I have an old 825i with the Powertach plow; the plow only works above freezing! Last week's polar blast with snow was a real bummer!
Do you (or anyone) have a link to the manual for the hydraulic pump?
I'd like to drain and flush and refill the lift cylinder and the two angle cylinders.
Ours froze in the up position - at least we could move the Gator around.
Any help is appreciated, regards, Old John
I hate to be such a pest, but I have more info that I forgot to mention (so maake this the PPPPR
Hey, Jerry - I have an old 825i with the Powertach plow; the plow only works above freezing! Last week's polar blast with snow was a real bummer!
Do you (or anyone) have a link to the manual for the hydraulic pump?
I'd like to drain and flush and refill the lift cylinder and the two angle cylinders.
Ours froze in the up position - at least we could move the Gator around.
Any help is appreciated, regards, Old John
I lost track,I think this should be PPPS ... anyway, I forgot to tell you, the "electrical problem" they found on mine, or so they said, was paint underneath the main ground strap for all circuits. As I recall seeing before what I believe was that ground point, it is a bolt out ( fwd passenger) side of the top of the frame around the battery box. They said that it had eveidently come from the factory that way. Good luck.
 

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I hate to be such a pest, but I have more info that I forgot to mention (so maake this the PPPPR

I lost track,I think this should be PPPS ... anyway, I forgot to tell you, the "electrical problem" they found on mine, or so they said, was paint underneath the main ground strap for all circuits. As I recall seeing before what I believe was that ground point, it is a bolt out ( fwd passenger) side of the top of the frame around the battery box. They said that it had eveidently come from the factory that way. Good luck.
I had similar problems with my Powertach plow. It was very noisy and wouldn't work in some directions. I took off the hydraulic reservoir on the bottom of the pump. I discovered the hydraulic fluid was white and milky looking. After cleaning out the reservoir I noticed 2 screened filters on the bottom of the pump. I cleaned those out with carburetor spray. My plow is now working as it should. Later I also drained the lines and cylinders, just to be safe. I hope this helped.
 

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I had similar problems with my Powertach plow. It was very noisy and wouldn't work in some directions. I took off the hydraulic reservoir on the bottom of the pump. I discovered the hydraulic fluid was white and milky looking. After cleaning out the reservoir I noticed 2 screened filters on the bottom of the pump. I cleaned those out with carburetor spray. My plow is now working as it should. Later I also drained the lines and cylinders, just to be safe. I hope this helped.
I've been searching the Forum (and internet) for pics or videos of the dipstick/filler location and/or any tips. I have only found comments about the crappy location and what a terrible time folks have had adding fluid. Thanks in advance.
 

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Hi guys. It’s been a while since I have been here. We had some snow tonite so I threw the plow on. I have a powertach plow I bought from my dealer when I bought the Gator. Maybe 4yrs old now. I am having a problem with the plow. It goes up and angles while up. It goes down slow or sometimes won’t even go down. It won’t angle while the blade is down pushing snow. It started giving me problems last year after I sheared the pins off that hold the plow on and the plow fell off ripping a hydro line. I had a new line made and thought I filled the fluid appropriately.

Fast forward to this year. First time out tonite and the plow gets stuck up. Sometimes it goes down after holding the button for a while. It angles while up, but under pressure with snow it struggles to angle or simply won’t.

Any ideas? Do I need more fluid? The fill hole/check hole is in the worst spot. The dipstick is awful as well. is it easier to fill with a syringe vs funnel? Just looking for a little direction Before I lose the rest of my hair. Stay safe!
Hey Buddy,
This is exactly what happened to mine. I sheared the bolt off, but on closer inspection, i also bent the piston's rod and bracket. Checkout your piston rods, they'll really strain to go in and out if they are bent. If you have a home press you can straighten them out. Or better yet, bring them to a machine shop. A new cylinder will cost you a wopping $490 from Brinly Hardy. Please see my photo attached, you can see the bent rod and the sheared of bolt.
 

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PPS ... I must have logged on here with another of my accounts, used the "google address this last time, I (spirit calls) am Jerry.
Jerry, I'll bet you have water in the hydro fluid. Take off the reserve canister under the pump. I'm sure it's filled with white water logged fluid. There's a little nut on the bottom of the can which you need to unscrew.
 
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