[Holzie]

Holy mackerel, that's about all anybody could want to know about wheels for their machine. Well written and explained well. Thanks a bunch

Well, finally put my set together and threw them on this weekend.



Pretty happy with the way it goes down the road now.

This looks awesome, I am getting confused reading all this info would you mind sending me what you used for rims tires and lug nuts for this set up.

 

[CaptSeabee]

This looks awesome, I am getting confused reading all this info would you mind sending me what you used for rims tires and lug nuts for this set up.

In the original post:

- 15x6 5/4.5 Aluminum T08 Black Matte w/Machined Lip - T08-56545MBML rims from RecStuff.com They are 6" wide.

- LUG3K 7/16-20 Tapered Lug Bolts, Fits many Kubota and John Deere UTV's, 17mm Hex from pureoffroad.com

- AM90175 Americana Trailer Wheel Center Cap - Stainless Steel - 3.19" Pilot dust covers from etrailer.com

- 225-70-15 radials from Les Schwab

I find the LS radials are not great for all around so I'm replacing with General Grabber ATX. They will be better on the spread while being great for the dump runs. Snow rating is Triple Peak which is better than M+S.

 

[Holzie]

In the original post:

- 15x6 5/4.5 Aluminum T08 Black Matte w/Machined Lip - T08-56545MBML rims from RecStuff.com They are 6" wide.

- LUG3K 7/16-20 Tapered Lug Bolts, Fits many Kubota and John Deere UTV's, 17mm Hex from pureoffroad.com

- AM90175 Americana Trailer Wheel Center Cap - Stainless Steel - 3.19" Pilot dust covers from etrailer.com

- 225-70-15 radials from Les Schwab

I find the LS radials are not great for all around so I'm replacing with General Grabber ATX. They will be better on the spread while being great for the dump runs. Snow rating is Triple Peak which is better than M+S.

Thank you for the info. And the idea for the G Grabbers instead of radials. My problem is we run are JD825i on both dirt roads and paved and sick of wearing out stock tires. This seems costly by the time your done like about $1000. but would probably pay for itself by not replacing stock tires over and over again. Our gator does NOT have a 2in lift so everything you stated above should work without rubbing correct?

 

[CaptSeabee]

There won't be rubbing when you're dealing with 27.4-27.7" tires. Gators wear tires regardless. Gators are also notorious for being out of alignment new from the factory. I have Les Schwab align mine on the rack first thing. That said, street tires are more cost effective vs. the higher end DOT stuff for the original rims. Also, LS will honor the warranty. So if I kill off a set in 12K miles, oh well, they take care of it. That's why getting an alignment from them prevents some of the excuses to deny. I also get 1-2 nails a year. Not paying for the fix is a good thing, especially when it's through a sidewall and you have to get a new tire.

 

[Philbilly2]

This looks awesome, I am getting confused reading all this info would you mind sending me what you used for rims tires and lug nuts for this set up.

My rims
Set 4 15" Vision 375 Warrior Black Machined Rims 15x7.5 5x4.5 Jeep Ford 5 Lug | eBay

Same Lug Nuts as Capt
LUG3K 7/16-20 Tapered Lug Bolts from pureoffroad.com

Tires
215/75R15 BFGoodrich Mud Terrains - KM2's - Believe I bought them through Discount Tire


The picture that I have posted was the first set of rims that I used. I feel they were to narrow so I went to the wider Visons that are linked above.

 

[Philbilly2]

Our gator does NOT have a 2in lift so everything you stated above should work without rubbing correct?

With the 215's mine would only really rub at full turn in reverse. Other than that it was fine.

 

[CaptSeabee]

Philbilly has a nice set of tires. The light rub is due to 27.9 diameter. You can also go with the 225-70 profile for 27.4 or thereabouts. I don't recall that size in the KM2s. The Grabber AT/X I use have a great snow rating which is important in getting to the dump in the winter. They are a tad wider as well. Either way you'll be pleased.

 

[Dennis5258]

CaptSeabee
I have a 2020 835R and we have a similar issue that you described in your posting.
We run it in north Georgia mountains on gravel and old logging roads about 30% of the time and 70% on hard surface roads. The 27" Maxxis Big Horns are noisy and really beginning to show some wear. I have a few questions about your upgrade. Would you be open to a phone call to discuss? Thanks.

 

[Andy Burke]

I've seen a number of posts recently about different rims and tires. First, I'm not addressing what to do after doing a 2" lift. I have no experience there. That means you are around 27" diameter. The displays program the speed correctly up to that point. Additionally, you run out of room in front first. If you have the fender guards, you run out of room faster.

First, the bolt pattern is 5-4.5 That means 5 lug bolts on 4.5" center. If you Google that pattern for rims, you'll get all sorts of stuff for trailers. That's what I use. The stock JD rims have a 1.5-2" positive offset. They are also wider than trailer rims. Trailer rims come with zero offset. Since the typical rims are 15", I've noted no problem using them. Various sites like Tire Rack and Les Schwab will talk about problems with too much positive or negative offset and all prefer zero.

So what rim? Trailer rims come in 5" and 6" widths. The 5" rims are suitable for 205 tires and the 6" are good up to 225s. So if you want to hit 27" overall diameter, you can go with 205-75-15 or 225-70-15. I prefer the later even though I started out with a 5" rim and 205s on the 855D.

Rims come in either steel or aluminum. Either will work right? BE CAREFUL. The stock JD lug bolts are a crazy 7/16-20 thread with a metric head that runs into the bevel. They work fine for steel rims and the aluminum ones JD specs for their stuff. These bolts are not trailer aluminum rim friendly as the head engages the rim which means you torque on something other than the bevel, hence the bolts will loosen.

Center hole on the rim is important too. The best fit is using a rim with a 3.19" center hole. 3.25" will work, but the JD plastic cap fits loosely. Also aluminum rims have a narrow indent for the dust cap which means the JD product is too thick on the lip. Steel dust caps are in order.

SOLUTION: You can buy many things that work. I decided on

- 15x6 5/4.5 Aluminum T08 Black Matte w/Machined Lip - T08-56545MBML rims from RecStuff.com They are 6" wide.

- LUG3K 7/16-20 Tapered Lug Bolts, Fits many Kubota and John Deere UTV's, 17mm Hex from pureoffroad.com

- AM90175 Americana Trailer Wheel Center Cap - Stainless Steel - 3.19" Pilot dust covers from etrailer.com

- 225-70-15 radials from Les Schwab. Update: I upgraded to General Grabber ATx for better snow and off road capability. Seems to be a good all around tire. The Triple Peak snow rating is the best you can get with DOT tires.

Results: I use street tires a lot because of the typical firm soil on my spread and lots of road running to the dump, feed store, you name it. Street tires give you a quieter ride, better acceleration, better top end on hills, and wear a lot better than running knobbies on asphalt. I found a good ice/snow rated radial performs better on icy roads vs. the knobbies. That is likely due to much more stiping than on off road tires. I use the knobbies in the winter as we get up to 3-4 feet of snow and I still need to get out to the chicken coop over a path that I make with the snow blower. Les Schwab had no problem giving me the mileage warranty although it would take many years to hit 60K miles.

For a peek at steel rim application, see my 855D Turbo review.

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those tires are 29inch? have u a lift and wheel spacer?

 

[Andy Burke]

those tires are 29inch? have u a lift and wheel spacer?

sorry, im wrong. there just over 27 inch.